A special Music Trivia Bonus Episode
Out On The Tiles #3 brings in a plethora of past and future quests to try their hand at Music Trivia and then a follow on conversation about concerts, bands, and all things music. (Plus way too much Creed)
Out On The Tiles is the Music Rewind Livestream series where we gather to talk music without any real agenda. Albums, artists, genres, songs, lists, favorites, duds, whatever comes up on any old Friday night.
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Transcript Below As Follows:
Participant #1:
Well, do it a lot. I have no idea what's going on. All right. Hello, everyone. Welcome to out on the tiles number three, a Music Rewind live stream. And this particular round, we have a special event to kick this one off. We've got a whole crop of passed and future guests to try their hand at the Music Rewind trivia challenge. So for anyone that's watched our live streams before, you've got some familiar faces with Luke, Mike, Danny, and Al. Joining us this time, though, we have Doug from our Van Halen episode. We have Nicole from an upcoming Cranberry's episode. This is the first time I'm seeing Nicole. We haven't recorded that one yet. And we have my beautiful wife, who will be doing a Less than Jake episode. All right. Hi, everybody. Welcome to the live stream. Howie hey, everybody. Steve hi, there. Hello, everybody. Say hello, everybody. Hello, my mouse guide, which is wonderful timing that makes things difficult. I got there you want it? I got the other Mac mouse. Well, I got to get everybody in the trivia thing yet, so let's see. We've got we need Allen in there. All right, Alan dropping it in the live chat. Luke just did. So go to that on your smartphone, and then once everyone's in, I will share that. Yes. Mike, do you have to be on your smartphone? No, you can do it on your computer. Thank God, because I feel like looking down the whole time. You're the oldest person ever. I might be older.
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Do I have to put the http www dot mike, you are in there twice, by the way. Well, this is my third one, so MB is what I'm playing with tonight's episode. Tonight's episode is brought to you by Drizzley.com. Nice guy. Sorry, it's across the street.
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Drizzley is the sponsor. Michael, get it right. Drizzley. I delivered from Drizzley is life awesome? I work for Drizzle. I'm a Drizzley deliverer.
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All right. I heard the struggling. Yeah. What happened? I was in there. No, not in there. Damn it. These are all questions about the Eagles, correct? Steve oh, my gosh.
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That would be winslow, Arizona, would be the answer to that trivia question. All right, the game is back unlocked. Allen, you should be able to join back in.
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This is how you get all the viewers oh, jeez. Dead time. And figure out how to log in.
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Everyone's excited for the trivia? Welcome to music rewind. It hour. We are your host. Have you tried turning it off and on again? Thank you. When in doubt, reboot. All right, here we go. Are you all ready? No. Sure? The faster you answer, the higher the points. Are we supposed to see something on our phone right now or what? No. I see. Okay. There we go. Oh, boy. Pressure.
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Who won the first MTV video of the year in 1989? Four.
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Man. Oh, my phone is so delayed. That was mine. You guys were fast on the trigger there. I've got the year end screen. Yeah. All right. We got some technical difficulties there. Well, that's why I asked, and I put it on a second monitor. So you guys think that I don't know. I'm talking about I hammered that one quick. That was kind of an easy one. All right, so I'm in 10th place. Tied with Allen is what it says. Time is up. Wow. That's not possible. Let's see.
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Yeah. Bunch of winners.
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I would have never thought it was The Cars. Wow. Nobody got that. No, I would have never thought that it was you might think, yeah, I would have never thought that. I have to be honest, and I didn't even get to answer. Yeah, that's all right. All this music knowledge yeah. It threw right out the window. Well, Thriller, that would have been, what, 82? So yeah, 84 wouldn't have been so I definitely was wrong. All right, we'll go on the next one. We'll see if everybody gets a chance this time. Okay, who is a founding member of Pig Floyd from start to finish? Roger Waters. Nick Mason david Gilmore richard Wright. Definitely not him. Someone got it. I got it. Nick Mason. You're committing there. Everyone else either joined later was kicked out at some point. Yeah, that's right. There we go. I look back and go, well, that was a stupid guy. Dancer Alan's at the top of the leaderboard. Really? How did you know this, Alan? It was a guess. I just figured it was too easy to beat anybody, but Roger Waters was on the first record. I went with Roger as well. Roger Waters left in 1983. Yeah. Got you, Leanne. Yeah. And Rick Wright was actually fired during the wall. Yeah. And then rehired back. That's where I screwed up. You guys didn't do research papers on Pink Floyd in high school? No, I actually did. I totally forgot that. All right. Question. Who is Gordon Sumner? That's easy.
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All right, gordo.
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Jump right on that one. Sting is the right answer for those listening to the audio version of this particular show. Darn it. I just watched Quadrophenia again, and it was listed as Sting on that. I forgot stings in that. Yeah, I had a clip from that in the intro. Right. He was the waiter. Yeah, he was the waiter. The face. That face. Yeah. Ace face. That's it. He was the ace face. All right, ready to go on next one? Yes. Let's see. What song had the longest run at number one on the Hot 100 in 1992? 92. Oh, my gosh. Who cared about music in 92? Everyone. No one
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voiced to Men end of the Road. Dang it. That's surprising. I mean wooden. Houston, I always love you. Hey, can you play a sample of that? Because I don't even know that song. I did not have all that ready. You didn't awkwardly try to dance with the girl in the y. Sing it, mike. I don't know it either. I want to hear it. No. Did we lose Danny in 92? I was already working. That came out and we were in grade school and man, every wide dance or the poop. I want danny and mike to do like a duet here with harmony. If you could keep your elbow straight and up near a woman's ribcage, young lady's ribcage, you could dance 5ft away. When I created this particular questionnaire, these were the top four songs of that year per washington video. Damn, steve. Nobody got that right. Yeah, I remember those. Absolutely. Who got that one right? Nobody got that right. I thought it was Whitney houston, 100%. So did I, obviously. That was awesome. No change to the leaderboard. Who released the most studio albums, debbie gibson, tiffany, britney spears or Christina aguilera?
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Debbie gibson. Are you kidding me? Oh, my god. Yeah, I thought she was she's got like one more than Brittany, I think it was. And by the way, she prefers debit. Right, guys? I'll act like like I know who she is because I got it correct. Wait, you don't know? He just missed out on debbie gibson and tiffany. He was like too young for it, I think, probably. No, really? Luke. Luke, do you have an older brother or sister? I've got a younger sister. Luke jumps to the top with that one nickel. We need to pick up our game. Thanks, deb. Come on. Nicole and I can bind our scores. So we got luke on top and then allen I'm in 7th. I really thought debbie gibson was like, I warned you this was going to be all over the place. I'm not mad about it. I'm not mad about it. I'm learning. We've got a night later in life. Crazy. All right, question six. Who was the drummer for the jimmy hendrix experience? Oh, my god. Come on. Everybody should get this. Everybody should get this. Everybody putting paul, sweetheart, you're doing great. Don't worry. Oh, phil. I thought maybe this paul, I wanted to put real drummers in there. You know what I did? Antman tie in coming out. Mack and me.
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I got a clip of the new antman movie. All right. Alan's back, cliff on top. Nicely done. All right, let's keep going. Who wrote respect from aretha franklin
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because that was his song. I couldn't remember between him or sam cook exactly what I did. Damn it. I want to make sure I get that e on that podcast. I'm going to say motherfucker so I could have that off the shell's. Up in the top five. Must have got that one. Way to go, Michelle. Yeah. Only took seven questions.
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Keeping it going. Number eight, ian hunter was the lead singer of which band?
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Help me out because I was kind of I put that question in there just to use that clip. I love that version. No, they didn't write the song. Did David Bowie write the song? That version is from the Freddie Mercury tribute concert with David Bowie singing with him. He's a backup in the actual song, doesn't he? Yeah. So the clips are actually I'm asking the question for people who like maybe the clips may be helpful or they may be completely wrong. Okay, I don't like this. We're back with the stink question. I use that opportunity to have prints playing while my guitar gently weeps because that's just a fantastic clip itself. Or that you had Sid Barrett in there for Chug Bam. Blues is just a great song, though. Ellen has a screen going on. Ellen's crushing needs more Debbie Gibson questions. Hey, once you put a Taylor Swift question up here, if there's any 2000 questions, I'll crush Taylor Swift question. Top selling movie soundtrack of all time. Oh, my gosh.
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I would have said The Blues Brothers. I would have said The Big Chill, but that was before the advent of that was before the Bodyguard 80s Bodyguard just crushed everything. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, Dolly Parton's burning yesterday. How was it? Yeah. How old is Dolly Parton? How young is she? Is what? You want to ask 70 something? I'm not well, how old are her parts? Because, like, her face is probably like 25. Her eyebrows give it to Mike when we talk about an iconic woman body. Cool dude. She has a beautiful dude. She's not a Buick.
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That are younger than her daddy for the episode. She's not a Buick. She's not a Buick. Brilliant. My mom named her Chihuahua Dolly after Dolly Parton and then she got another Chihuahua and named it Miley. Who was Dolly's godfather? Miley Cyrus. Yeah. I would have a heart to heart with her if I was the godmother
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with all the stuff. Yeah. Studio albums from Pearl Jams. I know this one, but my screen is frozen. Sure. Seriously. Hey, my screen is frozen. Mine is two. I can't answer. Mike got in there with the right answer. I wanted to ridicule him. Yeah. Oh, do you think I was going to get that wrong, Steve? The tricky part, if you would have put Ten on there because that would throw you off because the first album is done. The tricky part would have been honey quality Pearl Jam.
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The answer is eleven. Don't argue with Wikipedia. I actually have all eleven on cassette up there. No, I'm saying the answer to Al's question. The good albums. Eight. Okay, we talk about that for the next we can let's talk about this. Why is Maxpaser lightning bolt and Gigaton so horrible? And Go, you saw those songs live. I don't know. It's all in that exact same I did get more respect. Just because you're tired of the formula doesn't mean they're not good. No, I agree. This is all opinion, right? Yeah. But I like AC DC and every one of their albums, even the ones that people don't know about or seem to wait, they have something that's not about. Like balls. No,
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I got no beef with AB. They sing the same song over and over again. But it's a song I like. I give them a greatest for the guitar player of all time. No, that's James Hetfield. Best down, best downstroke of all time. Pete AC is very much like Motorhead, where it's the same song. But if you like that song, love Motorhead. Motorhead all the way. Love it. Yeah. I can firmly say that there are no Motorhead questions. I'm sorry, darn it, Doug, you would have cleaned up on that. Yeah, that's all I've been studying, though, is Motorhead. Straight to the top. What's that? Any ACDC questions?
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Maybe. Don't give it away, Steve. Don't give it away. We had Phil Rudd on that one. Well, he was not a member of the Yardbird.
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Looks like that was fairly easy for everybody. He was a member of the couple of Misguided team, though. Too soon. Brian Jones was the incorrect answer, so he was one of the swimmers of all time. Speaking of that, did you hear that the Stones are going to have four or five new songs and they're going to tour again? Wheelchairs. I just heard it today. I know somebody that went to one of their concerts just this last summer and they said, man, they were still great. Yeah, mick is still jumping around on stage. It's insane. He's in better shape than anyone on this podcast. Yeah, you're absolutely right. Yeah, I cannot argue that be Winded after the first song. Who's drumming for this? Do they have a permanent drummer? I'm not sure. Yeah. I don't know. My mom had them on television a couple of weekends ago when I made dinner for her. Well, I saw meme where a Ringo star doesn't have a band and Paul McCartney is a bass player, so they could fit right into the could you imagine like a beetle that would own tour? That ticket would cost a billion dollars. That could sound terrible and still make billions. Didn't the guy from the Expensive winos Keith Richards Band, wasn't he the drummer on the last tour for the Stones? Not sure. I don't know, I thought he was. Maybe that's who they're going to have. Are we ready to keep going? Sure.
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Which artist opened Woodstock? Oh, my gosh. Come on. Not the worst singer of all time. I like Joe cocker. My agreement. Karaoke
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richie. Haven made a living just being a Beatles covered. Yeah, he was a karaoke singer, but a good one. Yeah, definitely. He's better than white guy with the blue voice. So who sang that song better? Ringo Star or Joe Cocker? I don't like Joe cocker. Yeah, I know. I kind of like the Ringo Stars, but I wasn't a big fan of Joe Cocker. I did. Look at this. He's singing that from his heart when john Belushi. That was funny. John Belushi did the best sat right next to him. Can we just talk about the fact that a young Joe Cocker good looking gentleman right there. Look at those chops. Yeah. Anybody who jokes like that is
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Nicole. I'm just wild guessing a lot of you. Nicole is the largest joke Cocker fan in the world. He's just not telling anyone. I like this version of the letter song. My baby wrote me a letter again. Didn't write his own song. He's a fucking cover singer.
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One of Pearl Jam's best song is Last Kiss. Oh, fuck, that song hit me. Didn't he do a cover of Bye Bye Blackbird? It sounds amazing. Well, what was the one that he did on MTV? Had the video of him singing, like, on a stage in a bar? I can't remember. Oh, Joe Cocker. Yeah, MTV. I remember that video. Something about a hat. Take your hat yeah, take your clothes off. Leave your hat on. Yeah,
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that's the one. Yeah, that's exactly right. But you can leave your hat on. Yes, that's the song. I don't know, though, that might be the worst, to Leave Your Hat On. I might know if I heard it, but it doesn't ring it. I'm sure it was doing on bass, actually. That song was actually pretty. I liked it better because he wasn't giving it as all, like you said during how he actually singer. All right, well, we'll move on to question number 13 here before we dive down the Joe Cocker rabbit hole. Yeah, well, we ain't got time. It's a hole we don't want to go on. I can have a whole podcast about that. Jesus. Who was the youngest? Beetle.
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That hate bulldog. That's my favorite beetle. Escommissory turn. My favorite beatle song. Same Here. Same Here. Bingo Star is actually the oldest. If you wait and don't answer till the very end, you get to hear the whole clip. Oh, I'm sorry. But then you get lower points and get on two different streaming services in order to participate. Golly. And we're glad you're here. I will say, hey, Bulldog. My favorite Beatles song and very underrated Beetle song. I agree. So is Old Brown weird enough? I dig that one as well. The whole which one? Luke old brown shoe. Oh, great tone. First time I've heard it was on the blue disk, like the blue CV. Steve, there's about seven questions left arena to start talking about, like, Olivia Rodrigo, people that you know that this is Tania Slip question on. I only know that Olivia Rodrigo exists because she came up in the Lord Melodrama. That record episode I just recorded, I think that record is really good. Olivia Rodrigo record. Yeah, it's fantastic. Really good. She really sounds good. It's surprised I'm not throwing shade at any of those. Yeah, I don't think there's any Olivia Rodrigo questions here, though. I will get it right. The rest of them are all eagles. The rest of the questions are all eagles. And actually, Danny's next episode is going to be midnight. Correct. We discussed this. Just to blow up the Internet. Just to blow up the Internet. That's right. Middle Aged Dad Talks about Taylor Swift. The entire rest in season three is going to be Danny talking track by track, 1 hour per track of all midnights. And think about this, though. You could be sponsored by Capital One because she's in all the commercials. There you go. That's a lot of money coming in with Capital One. And I mean, her beats are very much early in excess, early secure, new Order, not winning me over yet. I like all that stuff. Dave sweet spot. It's only a matter of time before my daughter finds out that exists. Hey, I'm very happy that my daughter likes Taylor Swift and not some other things that are out there. My daughter did like Greenlight from Lord, though. She was singing. That one was a jam. All right. Which of these is not a Billy Joel album?
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Fuck it. Got a couple of you on that one. I just don't know Billy Joel, though. Who does know is that The Stranger is one of the best albums of all time. I noticed The Stranger for 100% was like an album when it came out. I was at a record store and my dad went and he was wanting to get Wayland and Willie record. And my dad asked the guy while he's unpacking all these boxes of The Stranger album and they are literally getting picked up as fast as that guy could get him out of the box. And my dad asks about the country and western album, and the guy's like, I don't even know my dad's. Like, what? You don't know Whalen Jennings or Willie Nelson? And then the guy turned around and said, this is what's selling. And the guy had three boxes that sold in the five minutes that we were there. I mean, that's how fast that album was selling out of that record store. It was crazy. That's amazing. Yeah. I never seen a song. I like it. For those listened at home, the answer was New York State of Mind. It was not a silly Joel album song, but not an album. Is this one going to be a podcast? All of these, I released them back onto the feed on Monday. This one's not going to be very exciting if they can it was like seven in a row. I was going for seven in a row right there. I feel like this is more of a visual one. Oh, crap. My phone decided to restart. I don't know what the heck. Yeah. Steve, if you could edit all of this out, but if you can give us the pin. This is the part that's good. You do know what live means, right? Yeah. Three one 1675-367-5316. Wait, what is it? I'm sorry. Thank you all. And all of our live listeners are going to log on and play along, right? Yeah. And who hasn't tried to call Jenny? I have not. Let me know when you have to back in. I was going to say I don't know what the heck my phone is doing here. What's the area code for Jenny? I'm going to get my granddaughter, my tech support. I would guess Jenny would be on the east coast because I think I'm out it. Keeps telling me that it's now locked. That's what all I'm getting is. Yeah, that's what I'm getting too. I unlocked it. All right, let them all in. All listeners. Okay, let's see. You can't come back into six questions. Anyways, who is music rewind sucks? 8924. I think that's my wife. She was like, I don't want to do this. And your wife who wants you to go spend time with her and enter under a new name because my name was already taken. Yeah, no, that's what happened to me. That's why I'm empty or not. I was. Might be. So, Danny, you said you have tried to call Jenny. What is her area code? Well, I have not. Growing up, I always thought it was eight one five. Yeah, just assume it's 8150. It is. I just think wherever Tiny Tutone is from, that's got to be the East Coast, ain't it? How old is she now, though? That's a big she's probably older than my mother.
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You know that she was actually a real girl and that was actually her real number. I did not. Yeah, my tech support company kept calling it. Okay, I'm back on the villages now. Yeah. All right, are we ready? I don't think I can catch Allen Alan's running away with it at this point. We need some questions. Like anything after like 1995 for him. Yes.
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Here you go.
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There's more. There's more than three here's where Al goes down. That was a total guess. I got it right. You got it right. I thought I was taking this back. I had no clue who played bass on Dance of the Clairvoyance on the new Pearl Jam record. Was that more albums than he released while he was alive or does anybody know that? Yeah, it might be six of them. Are you shitting me? I would have never guessed that in a million years. My father here's the pin number. Is the next five questions or crank? I feel like I'm locked.
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Okay, buddy. I already feel like I'm a cal Lauren Junior, not silver. Well, you got to maintain to keep. Who is the original base player in the Cure? I can answer that. What are these questions? Well, so we should come on and make our own questions. Yes. Thank you, Al. This is going by much more quickly than we anticipated. Yeah, it is. Oh, my God. My mom just texted me. She goes, what is this broadcast by the way, there's Chicago. Mike coming out. My mom. No, that's Jewish. Mom. My nickname was taken. I don't know what the heck just put a one behind it. Okay. This will be a wonderful audio version. Exactly. Birthdays tapes edit this part out. That's why we need Mike and Danny to do their due of boys to men. Come on. Yes. What everybody's waiting for? It is. I will say this, there is a Guns and Roses question remaining. Good. He was a drummer. First one. Is everybody back in the game? Far behind like cannabis left me far behind well, we'll keep going here. Yeah, keep going. It says, Get ready. Didn't mean to. Who released the album? Still sucks in 2021. Should have released that. All four of them is the answer. All four.
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Holy it is absolutely real. Great. Hey. I like Creed. It was one of the best concerts I had ever seen in Doug.
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The Twelve Stones opened up, which ended up being eminent. They got the woman singer, took the place of the dude, so it was eminent. And then the guitar player from Alice and Chains, they had a new yes, cantrell and I have seen Kiss a few times in Van Halen. But I'll tell you what, Creed really did have a good no Way Jesus came down and saved
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it really was their state show was good. And they had so many shocking. I can't believe that. Is there anyone on here, honestly that would agree with Doug who's a Creed fan or could I was at that show and I don't agree.
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My brother David and two of my cousins were there that time. Well, which was the one we saw then? No, I didn't. No, I didn't see Creed with you. I saw kiss with you. I got a concert ticket right over there. I got off the ground. I was on the grass. Right? You were on a lot of grass
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because it's an outdoor show, but part of it is under an awning. And we had, like was it at the Mark in the Quad Cities? No, it was down in St. Louis. I'm trying to remember what that one's called. Eminess was really good, too. Amy Lee can sing the phone book to me, so I'm on her. Yeah, she could. This is the word.
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Let's hear about your Creed experience now that we heard that. No. Why do we keep talking about Creed? Awesome guitar player. Let's listen to Al's experience about Creed. I like it. I'm pretty sure I won the tickets, so that helped. But you're the tallest guy in the room and they just handed did you enjoy it? Did you have fun? Yeah, it was all right. See, I said this the last did they have the fireballs here we are flying out of the stage and all that stuff. The fire techniques and everything. I don't remember that. Yeah, their stage show. And then they had the screens behind them, man. Hey, Ricky. Hey, Rick. Rick. They were talking about how good Creed is. Oh, God. I have two words for that. And the first word is, no, you don't like Alter Bridge. You can get rid of staff if you don't like this singing, but no, you can get rid of all of them all off a cliff. There's nothing wrong with Craig. Craig gets a bad rap for no reason.
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Kennedy as the singer of Creed of Altar Bridge, a really good voice. And Miles Kennedy has gone on the front a lot of tribute band. Like, he's well, yeah, he's a really talented guy, but come on, man. Yeah. Half of this podcast, there's no way we would ever create a Creed. It's just like the cure. I don't care for the Cure, but give me the Colts. I like the Colt. You can't wait. Did you just equate Creed with the Cure?
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There's no way they are going to get done. Our hands in the comments section are loving the Creed conversation here, especially Mike's wife. My mom, too, she goes, who the hell are these guys?
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Creed is what Toby Keith fans listen to if they want to listen to rock. Good advice, I would say. Even Pearl Jam fans like Mr. Barrack. Creed took everything that's not good about Pearl Jam and amplified it like times a million and thousand. Yes, they made all like there was a lot to take on. Ten. Yeah. If that was the case, there would be ten Creed albums. But the previous question was, who released an album called Still Sucks in 2021? Yeah. I said nickelback. Nickelback. Marilyn Manson creek or Limp Biscuit? Yeah. Oh, God. That's really tough. It was limp biscuit. It was. And we got that right. But then we started they all still suck. But only one of them had a lead singer who was threatened by Eddie Van Heelen with a gun. Who was that? Fred Durham. Did he say it was because he had one of his amps or something like that? No, it was because he wanted to work with them. He said, I'm going to ask Eddie if he wants to work with me. And he showed up at Durst's house with a gun. He's like, don't you dare go. Let's not get political here, but Fred kind of started the whole Red Hat campaign. I'm just saying. Maybe that was his PTSD from being threatened by Eddie. I heard it was just he did it for the nookie. Somebody needs to take that cookie. That's a good joke. I'm not mad about that joke at all. Brilliant, by the way. Michelle had to bow out. There was a kid wake upstairs. I was just rinsing out some poopy underwear.
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Rick, you couldn't make it to the bathroom before you got home. You got to be more careful, man. I got two words. NyQuil. Just kidding. Very brave of you to admit on a live podcast. Yeah, that's. Right, well, you heard my podcast before. Come on. Chocolate starfish. Right?
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Moving on. Rick, did you want to get in on the game here with the last couple of questions? Sure. I just got that one. I guess other people got it. Check out the private chat. In the private chat, there's a way to get your login. Yeah, I'm doing this through my phone. You might not be able to multitask on the phone. Yeah, so let's see. Sorry, my eyes are I don't think anybody's catching Allen right now. I'm going to have a comeback here. You're not going to catch me, so I don't know how you're doing it. Yeah, I have no idea who thinks all this. Nothing wrong. Bronze. Yeah, that's okay. I'll just go back in there. It says I'm in 12th place. Literally six of us. Where do you go? My phone literally says you're in 12th place. Well, everyone keeps logging off, logging back in. So you've got to beat yourself now, doug, whatever point you had earlier, you keep logging me off and saying I have to re sign in with a different name, and that means you've lost your points. I'm going to beat myself on the Internet here? Yes, you've got to beat your previous. Yeah, and also, when you say that's what got help on the Internet, just make sure that's not like, sentences in a row. And Rick, are we ready to move on? Rick, I will say that Steve's questions are very much like your dad's taste of music. I don't even know if that's a compliment, fucking but I'm going to take it as a compliment. Hey, Mike. What's your mouth? Your mom's on. Okay, so you see the two people on the bottom here? Let's ask them. If my mom is offended by the F word, where do you think I was? Next question. Anybody that's driven in the car with my dad is no longer offended by the F word, which includes your mom, Mike. Next question. All right, next question. Moving on. Moving on. Who played drums for Guns and Roses at the 89 American Music Awards? Just read the book. I know,
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Aldino. I already got 1000 points on that one. Well, you already caught. No, I think I should have went with my first get. I would have got it wrong anyway. You might catch him. Keep that book. If I didn't read that book, I would have never known that. Look, if this is in, it shows them there. They couldn't fucking wheel. Fucking Steve Adler hop the aisle to play. They called in the boys this summer. There we go.
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Those had sneak the eagles in there somehow.
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You got this, Mike. Mike, we've got faith in you. Take him down. I got to figure out how to get into this Cahoot thing for the next time. You've got, like, seven degrees and you're not going to figure it out. Most arcane nonsense. Okay, it's working. Just fine. Yeah.
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All right, calendar 18. What was David Leroy's first solo effort?
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That one. I know. Rick. I'll tell you what, you would probably do really well on this questions because I can say a lot of like the shit like from like the like empty
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but no, I'm just saying, like I tried to be all over the place. But for somebody like Rick, who doesn't like, listen to this stuff, but he would know it just because it was beaten to his head as a kid. And I for the god who was eating a smile, the Crazy from the Heat was the fourth song, EP. And then
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I was going to say because I have the album. Well, I also have smile. Mike, it said first soldier and Mike, would you have gotten it correct if it said EP? I thought it was eaten and Smile. If it was EP, I knew it wouldn't have been Eaten and Smile. Right. Because Eden smile. I knew his album. If you would have said EP, I would have known this. No, I would have been like, oh, couple. I know it's not Edo smiled. That'd be something else. Yeah, that's what my thought process would have been. It was really good subterfuge because if you wouldn't have known it was crazy from the Heat, because crazy from the Heat. Well, I mean, is it crazy from the heat or just going crazy? No crazy from the heat. That's the EP. I got it on vinyl. That's the EP. Me too. Yeah. Is that the title of the song from Edam and Smile? That's where I'm going. Crazy,
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though. But it's not crazy. Wait, is that on there or is that on Eat them and Smile? It's got to be on there. The songs have to be on there, right? Yeah. You had California girls. I was never going to catch them anyways. I'm Calnerton Jr. Steve, do you have any questions from this century for Nicole? And I
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did the worst album from 2021. Danny yeah. You want to know how Randy Rhodes died? I got a granddaughter that could tell you
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for a Randy Rhodes question. She could answer that. Here we go.
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Behind it.
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That was definitely a shot in the dark. Yeah. Right wing jobs released an album. Yes, I did. Yeah. I have a majority of them. I don't know if I can put a playlist together for 43 songs for Dan Martin. Dance is a great what's his number in this catalog? Do you know what the number of songs? 43 albums. 43 albums got to be at a minimum. 430 songs. At a minimum, if they're yeah. Wow. And the only one anyone knows is Moon Dance. Yeah.
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There's a lot of good I just played into the Mystery Morrison record, but
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brown eyed good. Luke hello. His van in the street. Choir people. Very impressive, luke you just can keep stacking. Hey, hold on. Luke let me go and get my CDs on St. Dominic's preview 1972. Oh, is that on your list? Nice. That was on the list. I didn't see it. I could get my Creep TVs, but they have a couple of TVs are under my drinks. The Crease CDs actually level my couch, so that's what I do. All right. Ready for the last question? I'm ready for season.
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I got it.
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Who was not in the chorus of We Are the World?
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No. Bob Geldoff, for some reason, because he well, Bob Gildoff. Didn't he do the thing? He was with the boomtown rats, but didn't he? Wasn't he the guy?
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He had a cocaine wrap. According to Barbara Streisand. Christopher staff, they couldn't sing anyway. So that's why the stars weren't shocked in the 70s. Dan Ackroyd was in there for some reason. Yeah, because he was part of the Blues Brothers. I think by that time, blushy was already dead. She got in on sympathy. Yeah. Dan was in with all the blues. He had the blues radio show and all that stuff. As they say, nothing wrong with silver. Well, you had Spinal Tap in there too.
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No, they were in We Are Stars. Congratulations. Holy cow. That's fun. Yeah, cool. I put all that together. Hey, Steve, next time can we get questions from the 20th century? I had a question. You can't keep using that joke, though. This is like a history lesson. This is nice. The only thing is you didn't go back. That's an original joke. Danny used two different jokes. His first was, can we get something for this century? And the next one is from the 20th century. Jimmy Hendrix. I know. That's the same joke. You have to go back even further. Okay, so next time it'll be 19th century music trivia. Yes.
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Now, come on. Bach was in the 18th, the 17th and 8th. You're right. I would have got that wrong. There you go. You're already out of the game. Didn't music history start with, like, Robert Smith? No, I don't think it's hard to build it, actually. I wish Katie would come down here. She's too shy about it. She was just giving you a hug through the thing, Danny, for that comment. See, nothing wrong with the Cure leader. And, Rick, real quick to the corner of me, I don't know, you couldn't throw in a Johnny Cash or Elvis Presley or Metallica poster. Sweet. That's from the Madison show. So Alan wanted me to bring something up. Have you found a solution to your scavenger hunt now? Yeah. No, I have not. And you know what I did? I went on The Facebook and I joined that group and asked the question. I haven't got a response yet. The Facebook. To be fair, it was called The Facebook originally.
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He's trying to figure out the date of this. Or was it who, the bank. I think it was inner web. The date of the show? Yeah. Does not have anything
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if you just go on
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Settlers. I've looked just like $12. And you could tell the ticket is I love when they used to get the tickets, man, that was the best thing. Yeah, because it proves you walked into the show. That's true. I love that. I love the rip ticket. When they first started scanning them, I was like, hey, would you rip it just for me? Because I can't. So the other significant thing on this is, if I remember right, Stevie Rayvon opened the show. Oh, wow. It was before 1990. Or it should say later. Yeah, somewhere between 82 and 84. I was going to say because of the ticket, I would say like 82 because of the ticket design wasn't anything special. And it was $12. It would have been late 82 because my first concert was September 9 of 82. Yeah, it was very close to that. It was right after that. So somewhere between right next to it is a ticket from 1984. Same arena, much different design. Yeah, a much better design. That is like when they first the Civic Center, I think I saw a Cheap Trick and I think it was like $8. And so that was in the late 70s. Just a real quick, real fast. My mom said she has to finish her movie. So she said we were all hilarious. She can't stay on. So we can also make no, you watch it. So we all can start swearing again. Because my mom who doesn't swear ever, ever, who basically she rivals Rick, also equals fuck. It's the same word. But now you guys say whatever you want. She's got to watch her movie. Talk amongst yourselves. I would only guess we sure that my assumption is it is a 38 Special ticket. It might not be. Yeah. I'm wondering if it's like Matinee special or no, the thing is, I remember being there and I remember about the time, but I just can't remember the exact date. Yeah, well, didn't didn't they have that teacher teacher song? I mean, 38 Special and probably 19. It was okay because I was going to say I thought that was one of my high school movies or freshman year or something like that when I would go out with my friends or something. That would be a movie that we might not see. I recognize this. Luke is already on there. Yeah, I recognize this. I'm not seeing it. No, I was on that site. I recognize the XXX. That's the Peoria Civic Center Archive, right. Yeah. Two days I've been working on this site. You recognize what that was? I thought Luke was spamming my thing with XXX. I was like, what are you trying to do? I'm a fan. You got to throw them keywords out there. My goodness. Anyway, that's what I've been working on for two days. Well, I mean, I've been working, but at home you're amongst friends now on my break, I do search you're a ticket stub pi on the side. That's your hustle. People just bring you their ticket stub and say, yeah, I don't remember this concert. Where was I? What year I showed some of you or most of you. You've seen the collage, right? Or no, Nicole hasn't seen it. No, either. And I was at a lot of those shows, but I wasn't at that 38 Special that time. I've seen them twice at the can I post pictures on here. They had the bike rallies during TT weekend. Hang on. I don't think I have a picture picture, but hey, Luke, while we're waiting for Al, do you have the scarf handy? I can go grab it. Yeah, I think Rick might get a kick out of that. All right, all right. The Tale of the Scarf okay. I'd love to know about this. Yeah, let Luke tell it. The story to tell there. I'm going to see if he's had any bids on that thing. I knew he had put it up for sale or something. At one time. Yeah. In one of our livestreams. It was out of the case because he had it in, like, a little shadow box. So here Luke. Luke, I said it to your phone. It's been featured on three podcasts now, or live streams. Yeah, but tell us the story. All right. So my Aunt Sherry, she went to see Elvis in Champagne, Illinois. What year? 1977. Yeah, I think so. 76, 77, somewhere around there. Anyway, she was in the front row, and he handed it to her, and it's got makeup or what. It's got brown and blue streaks on it. So I think he wiped his face with it or wiped his neck with it or something, and yeah, that's a pretty neat heirloom. Anyway, I was going to sell it, but Danny and Mike talked me into keeping it, so I'm going to get it from well, that's good. While you were gone, I was going to ask you I told him I was going to ask you if you had beds or anything on that. No, they talked me out of it. My daughter has a basement room, and as a practical joke, every year we get her Elvis related items nice. For the basement. She went to Summer Cap one time, and I worked at an old folks home, and the person passed away, and there was a good Elvis on black vinyl or whatever. That black velvet. Yeah, black velvet on the side of the road. And I hung it in her room, and so when she came back, it was hanging above her bed, and she left it there. I said, do you like what I got you? And I thought she would joke about it and that would be the end of it, but then her friends would come over. They go, do you really like that guy? And they go, no, my dad bought it for him. I kind of like him, but my dad bought it for me and from that point on we would always get her Elvis up every Christmas. Nice. So now she is an Elvis fan. She listens to him in the car on the way when we're on the road and stuff. Sure. Very cool. Hey Steve, real quick. Yeah, there it is. That is a collection. What is the dollar. My wife wants to know, are you seeing her comments on YouTube? Yes, but she keeps talking about Creed. Yes, I understand that Marissa really likes Creed. No, that's cool. She might come out there. It seems to be a bit of an obsession with her. Steve, Rick and I can attest we've known Michael the longest and he's been the largest Creed fan. He kind of thinks that it's in jest here, but he's the biggest Creed fan to ever walk to face. Obviously that's true, but no, Steve, the real question is she's like, does he see my comments? Because I'm like I was just out there getting a beer and she goes, tell Luke to keep that fucking scarf. The fuck's wrong with him? I go, why don't you type that in there? She goes, no, I'm just going to type like oh, that's so cool. I met Marissa at the Pearl Gym concert and the first thing she asked me about was Creed and we talked about all of their albums. She did Creed for like a year and a half. Michael is Rick. Tell me if I'm lying. See someone in the comments loves Scott's. Michael's first favorite band ever is Creed. Yes.
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I've got their solo stuff too, like Scott, his solo albums and things like that. That's probably your feed and Doug here. That's it. But I like when they're Creed and I heard that they may actually be maybe doing something again, but it's just like nickelback. People give them shit. But you know what? They have both sold lots of albums and things.
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Nicole, what did you say? I said we need a Creed covers Creed album or Creed Bratton from the grassroots covers Creed song. They do have quite a few like best stuff type things out there, but yeah, we can petition Joe Cocker to do an album of Creed covers. There you go. Hey Steve, you know what my hell is? There it is. I've already stepped into hell. Like if there is a way to do it, hear it out loud. That's a little help with my friends, fire, Brimstone, all that shit. Doesn't matter if I listen to that for 24 hours a day. That was actually a very good Scott statue. I was going to say I have a lot of old girl
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I see my wife songs, I mean, I've listened to every album and stuff and some of it will have it could be taken as a Christian overtone which they said originally that's what they were doing. But also here does love songs to his kid.
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Wait. That's Tommy Lee. Tommy Lee. If you go over that with his hand, which way you want me to go, Danny? I have that one, too. Were you in Soldier Field or where were you to see that show? Hey, Al, was that 95? Was that when he was over at the at your friend's neighbor's house and he rode my chopper? Yeah, that's the Tommy Lee one. Yeah. That was a great day. How many leads your guy's house with his lead? He was a down to earth guy. I felt sorry for him because he couldn't go anywhere without being mobbed. But we got to talk about, I don't know, 20 minutes to half hour. Yeah, he was pretty cool, actually. Yeah,
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he thought I was wild and told me to take it easy. I let him ride my custom chopper around the block, and he came off of it shaking and said it was the fastest thing he ever been on. And I said, oh, but you're married to Pamela, right? And he put me in a headlock and gave me a noogie. I'm sitting there going he didn't get upset with it? And he's like, oh, yeah, we were joking around, having fun. We pulled a scam to get past the barriers and stuff like that, and heck, Alan, I we were eating the sandwiches from the home crew and all that stuff. It was pretty cool. We fit right in, and the cops looked at me. I said, you two would fit right in. I had hair. I would think that you guys look like church boys. Just yeah. I said, Tommy told me it was okay. Yeah, I told the cop that was keeping people out. I said, Tommy told me to tell you it was okay. And he looked at me and looked at my bike, and he goes, okay. Lifted the barrier, and you can hear all the people, hey, that's my dad. That's my brother. And all this and not falling for it. Bird rubber up the street. And Tommy come walking out, and he was just totally amazed at the bike. I said, you want to ride it? And so very few people got to ride that bike because it was scary fast. I will say it's a good thing that you didn't like laminate ear tickets, because I wish my mom was on here now, because this is like a nerdy thing that my mom actually had happened to her. Not nerdy, but it's sad. The person came in with all these tickets, and they tried to laminate it, and because of the heat, it turned all the tickets black. All those tickets turned black. And this person had, like, a wall like you had. And my mom sat there and said, I don't know what to do with tickets. Yeah, you can't laminate them. I think it's deckopodge or whatever you call it. I use that on Modge podge. Hey, Al. Who's that? Pick what pick is that? What band? Well, to the left, to where that square is is Rick Nielsen from Cheap Trick. Oh, yeah. Hey, he's pizza. The square is Creed, by the way. Yeah. I do have a Rick Nielsen guitar pick, though. I do want to point out one over here with Rolling Stones with Guns and Roses. La. Coliseum. Wow. Living color opened up for Rick. Rick I had tickets for the show with Metallica and Guns and Roses that the riot was, but I was in the hospital at that time, so I missed the riot. And Rick might be able to back me up more than anybody else here, but Rolling Stones in Guns and Roses makes a lot more sense than it might now because early TNR is essentially Rolling Stones, right, Rick? Yeah, it's got Stones running through its backbone and early Stones. And that was Izzy Straddling in my heart. Listen to the Juju Hounds. The first Juju Hounds album. It's a basically Stones record. Yeah. Keith Richards record. It's it's basically Keith keith Richards first solo record. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd agree with that. Yeah. I see Rick Springfield, that was the very first concert ever went to, believe it or not. Greg Kinband opened up the shelves. That's the same type of ticket, CS type ticket development revolver, too, which Rick Springfield still out there doing. It
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shows. I mentioned this before, but I do have to say that Beatles Pearl Jam on. That was my first show, big show ever. Nice. Pearl Jam at Soldier Field. And I had that hanging on my bedroom wall for 20 some years. Cool. Yeah. And I got to look at it every day because I didn't get to because Michael, if she's not on here, said he could. No doubt she's not on. That lady. She was the one let me go to Chicago at 15. But, I mean, Danny's parents were apparently saints because they let their 14 year old kid go to picking up the Guns and Roses ticket. There's another one on there. The very first night of the user illusion One and Two, they opened at Alpine Valley. And there's a ticket on there of that somewhere. Oh, wow. I would have liked to see that before they fucking. It all disintegrated. Yeah. But is still that where Patel is open for Appetite for Destruction, I thought was the best that they ever did. Oh, yes. The first time I ever heard about user illusion One or Two is Rick standing in his kitchen on the phone pre ordering both tapes. Oh, wow. Yeah. I need to make sure I need to make sure this is my name. I was there in the summer and they were coming out at the end. September. Yeah. What it was no, I need both of them, like, arguing with somebody. I think it was Music Land or just hockey or whatever. This is amazing. Yeah. Well, you could get one or the other or both. And you ordered the both. Yeah. You had to make sure that it was both. Pre. Can't we all agree there should only have been one? Completely? Yeah, they could have. Yeah, they cut up time. I mean, no Appetite is one of the greatest rock record, period. From front to back, it was all down. There was no denying that. There was nowhere to go but down. Every time I listen to usual version one and two, and I'm like, we could just cut this down about ten songs and make it a fantastic one record. That low appetite out of the way, I think. But you have Arnold in the videos. Well, yeah, there was such hype when, like, Civil War came out and You Could Be Mine came out, because those songs, those are still probably two of the most songs. Great songs. Yeah. And the problem was, I think they sat on it too long and they let Axel go crazy in the producer seat a little bit, basically, from what I understand. And it was just so overproduced. Like all that crap with trilogy strange. Yeah. Wait, so Apple was the problem? That's weird. That's right. You're just breaking news here, Rick. I will say, one of my favorite GNR songs ever, and not in a GNR van, is 14 years. Oh, God, that is so much. Izzy has already been dismissed from the band chinese Democracy, that whole album, because it took so long. I've listened to it twice. I just haven't got into it at all. And sometimes if you listen to it, you'll get into it. But I didn't get into it at all, you know, and I thought, what a waste that that amount of time waiting for something. But maybe I will say, like, I think when I listen to it, I was like, all right, well, it's been so long, because it was like that last time. You think of June Roses, you think of, like, the early 90s, you don't even think about it. It will be kind of cool to hear him again. And he went back and you listened to it, and I thought, It's not bad. It's not the worst thing I've ever heard. It's just that Axel, like, gets in his head and fucking just as a guy who just I just read Steve Adler's book. I know it's been out for a long time. Yeah, I want to get that. I want to read that. It's really good. The guy did a lot of drugs, and he admits it all the way. That's why he had a stroke. And he almost died several thousand times, but he was like, I was the only one that could stand up to Axel, and that's why they kicked me out of the band, which is fine. Kicked out of Metallic. I think it's izzy leaving is the downfall of that band. Yeah, it was a different Rick, maybe. I think Mustain leaving Metallica well, Burton dying, obviously,
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but Hammond couldn't play. Kirk can't play like Dave Mcdaine. Dave Mistain made those first albums. You know what I mean? From a driving force to speed. Yes. If I listen to well, except for the new Metallica song, I hope they're coming out of that. But Megadeth still puts out some pretty good stuff. Yeah, Megadeth is vastly superior in a lot of ways. More solid throughout their whole career, definitely. Yeah.
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He sells, essentially, Metallica record. Right. Honestly, I don't know. I don't know if I go with that. No,
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because killing is my business is closer to a Metallica album, I would say. Is that the one with the one which is basically them? Are you talking about early Metallica? Early mega death. Like, so far, so good. So what was your Ride the Lightning type stuff? And if it Mustain wasn't, Mega Death wouldn't be playing on those first couple of albums. Must, Stain, Speed and Everything is what made those first couple of albums really good. And then you could call them sell outs and stuff. But really, what is it? Load. That's the load. That's where they kind of lost load. Reload, I will say, as a metalga fan, is it a Die Hard? There are two bands, the greatest thrash metal band to ever exist, and there's a really good hard rock band that exists. Yeah. So if you're trying to equate the two or marriage the two, you're going to come up in buttheads. But there's no denying that the best to ever do thrash is Metallica. Well, I know I will argue pentair would be different than what they played. Everything into it. It's because of mustain and Mega death. Mustain and what mega death listen to So far, so good. So what? Listen to that album and you're going to go, oh, shit. That's where they came up with Battery. That's where they came with ride lightning. That's where they came up with some of these of the faster songs. Doug, I agree. I started it by saying, agreeing with you, but Dave had a very influential point in the songwriting process. But I think Dave cliff, those guys. Yes, that's it. But James needed those other two guys. Exactly. It's like Jordan on the Wizards. Not the same without pay for the Wizards. Don't talk about it. Exactly. Yeah. You had to have Pimp and everybody else. I know Mike loves Saint Anger. Shit, I forgot about Saint Anger. Honestly, that's the one with no guitar solos. The whole album is Lars, and it's fucking kicked from the snare and the snare. That's all it is. Nicole, just because he's a tennis player doesn't mean he can have that kind of cardio. And he's got a question for Nicole. Go ahead. Nicole, what is your relationship? How did you come to Metallica? What's your view on metalga? No, you're doing the cranberries, right? Yes. Cranberries. Did you get something that was even was metalga? Even. Relevant to you. That kind of music even relevant to you? You didn't care about it? No, not even on my radar at that time. Got you. The real question is, I have to ask, how is it that you do that one and not the one without Zombie? I mean, my wife's favorite song of all time, Zombie. Why you have to wait for the episode? I know, Steve. I don't want to ruin it. Don't give it all away. Don't give it away. But I will just say that I encountered the first album first encountered, and that was what hooked me first. And then I heard them in sequence and even started to get them as Christmas gifts. I went along the journey on a slight delay from when they came out, but yes, no need to argue like that. The whole album is amazing as well. It's incredible. Steve, just record that what you just said and then use it. Because Nicole, I agree with you, because at one point, Rick got me as a Christmas gift warrants. Cherry Piez, baby. Oh, my gosh. Can we talk about that Christmas gift that I got you? Rick probably got it as an extra record for the record of the month. And justice for all, it was at the and my dad goes, Got to get something for your cousin. And I said, oh, Danny likes this. And I pulled the tape out, and it was and justice for all metalgo. He likes that. So my dad, who was which is hilarious now, if I mean, I'm 42, so at that time, he was probably 20 or 37, 32. I mean, he was like, you know, in his 30s. He said, yeah, very. My kid says, I just get the cassette of this Lady Liberty thing. He doesn't know who the fuck Metallic is. He doesn't know who the fuck anybody is on MTV. My dad, to this day, has no idea the guy will get that, wrap it up and gave it to him. I think some of the best music you encounter sometimes is encountering it in an arbitrary way too. Like bands you accidentally got introduced to without context or with you have to listen to this undue pressure. Well, I want to add on to the Christmas gift. So Alan here, during one Christmas, he hands me two CDs. One is Emerson Lake and Palmer's Greatest Hits, which explains all of our trips. Had never heard of that before. He didn't know anything about it. But also aerosmith gyms. And this was he gave it to me, though, when Crying. Amazing, that particular era of Aerosmith. Yeah. And my reply to him was, oh, yeah, I like these guys. They sing crying. But he hammered it home like, no, this is good. Aerosmith might be easier. When I heard Aerosmith for the first time was my uncle's eight track tape player with the big Mickey Mouse phones, and there was no volume control. I mean, you could just turn it up super loud and you had Back in the Saddle Again and Big Ten Inch and all these other songs. Gems was nothing like I was expecting. Kept rolling. It was an excellent album back then. You just didn't know if they were going to show up for their concerts because of the drug problems. Once they got sober, they sucked. Well, they got in with after done with. I was done with them. Run DMC. It brought them back to people knowing who they were. Mainstream. Yeah. Then they hired songwriters to do Permanent Vacation. Nicole I have a story about getting music arbitrary, so I think it was in fifth or 6th grade, and one of my buddies, Larry Madeiris was his name. He came to class one day and he said, I got this album. I don't really like it. You want to listen to it? And of course, I'm always up for it, right? So I said, yeah, sure, I'll listen to it. So I took it home, I put it on, and I played it like a million times. The album he gave me was Queen Life Killers. Oh, yeah. And it turned me on, the Queen. To this day. How could somebody not like that?
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I got turned on the Queen through News of the World. Yes. The album artwork is what? It just looks so cool. Have you ever bought an album, just not even knowing the artist, but just thought the COVID was cool? And you're like, I just want to hear what this band sounds like, because I just showed in my house,
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I think it was Family Guy that just would show that Crying was a robot or whatever you want to call them, and it was freaking them out. But I have to try to see if I can find it on Google. But it was so funny because it was freaking them out. But Family Guy moment where they spend a minute on the same thing or maybe even 90 seconds of him staring at the robot and back to him and back to the robot. They think they got the idea from the Queen album. I do, yeah, that's exactly because I would say the answer is true, that people it is cool. Like this age, we all just pay it. The album of COVID looks cool. Let's just buy that. Well, I was just going to say it is very cool, especially we're all from different generations and everything, but how imposing, how enticing an album cover is. Or if somebody says, we've all talked about it on our episodes with Steve, but if somebody gives you something or whether it's physical, digital or whatever, and there's a record there, there's an album cover there and you're like so intriguing. I think that what is there? That one. We will rock you. And that was big. I can remember stomping our feet on the floorboards of the car and clapping to we will rock you to touch on what Danny said. I think that with all the advantages of streaming and everything being on demand and ready and autoplay based on whatever your algorithm is telling you, the album art is getting to be a lost art. Because I can't think of any recent albums that are imprinted in my memory. Because you're not shopping through the record store, you're not shopping for your CDs. All you're seeing is a tiny little thumbnail. And they're not all as cool as the Music Rewind logo. Luke found it, by the way. Steve I don't think they did. It's not, dude, you made it up. Al it doesn't exist. I know it's a treasure hunt, but here's the deal. So all of these dates that I'm posting, could they have possibly stopped by? Period? Yes. On the way. That's absolutely it. It was a fill in, last minute thing. So any of these could be correct? Yeah. Like the golden 38 special. I can remember them. I think I didn't go see them then, but it would have been before then. No, it would have been like, you guys priority. So Peoria is a stop not only geographically, but from Chicago to Peoria to St. Louis. Right. If you look at concerts, that's how it always goes for Peoria shows. Or when a band gets ready to go out on a full blown tour, they come to Peoria or a smaller city like that and they warm up. I'm in the advertising business, and from the early seventy s to the late 90s, it used to say, if it plays in Peoria, that's where they would test.
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Nicole you're right. But if it plays in middle America and it used to be the quintessential test market, white middle America, if it'll sell there WMA. Luke there you go. We were talking about album artwork. The reason I bought the first Iron Maiden was record album was because of the artwork. I bought every album after that. They had the songs to back it up. But originally Kid in high school and I saw that, I'm like, oh, wow, that's pretty cool, and I'll tie it back to Rick's episode. You saw the cassette on somebody's desk and that intrigued you enough to listen to what was there to ask to take it. I got to take this thing home, right? Yeah. I have a couple of things I want to say first are actually Peoria stories because some of, you know, I talked about growing up a walker shop, but I was in Peoria until I was almost seven. Like, that's where I was born. And I have a lot of fond memories, but one of them was caterpillar tractor rallies. Oh, yeah. My dad worked for Cat. Of course, mine did, too. That's the first place I encountered Queen. Oh, I didn't know that. I didn't know what it was. But they always used to play another One Bites the Dust. I didn't realize. I'm probably older than you are, but I can remember going and getting the ice sandwiches and all that stuff. So my dad, my grandpa, my uncles, they all work the caterpillar. It's sad now because it's not what it was. It's not the world headquarters anymore. No,
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Texas. In Texas. It was Deerfield. Now they're going wherever in Texas. Texas is business friendly and actually personal friendly. You don't have certain taxes like you do everywhere else. And Illinois has very high taxes on everything, businesses and utilities, that kind of stuff. But that was the other thing was earlier in the week, in tribute to Jeff Beck, there was an article in the Milwaukee Journal that was talking about how at a show in Peoria where he opened for Fleetwood Mac so this would have been like 76 or 77. Yeah. Jeff Beck requested a fish dinner on his rider. And those of you who know the area, king's Restaurant was famous for its catfish dinners. Right. And they brought it's going to be catfish, of course. And apparently Englishmen don't eat catfish, or at least they didn't in the 70s. Are there catfish in England? It was probably considered the lowest bottom feeding. I'm sorry, I know I'm from off the Illinois River, but that is DirtFish. Yeah. Well, yeah. In any case, he flung it across the room. He threw it at the person that brought it to him. Oh, wow. It was like this very renowned from King's Restaurant, like, oh, my gosh, it's local delicacy. And apparently he apologized later, but it just reminded me, and I was like, yeah. I have really vague memories of King's Restaurant.
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Yeah. You remember Jonas and East Peoria? Well, they're still around, but get a good piece of fish there. Are we selling advertisements for them? I don't know. All I knew of Peoria was showbiz pizza back.
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Me and my wife. My damn thing is I'm going down to Peoria, gov. You're going to Al? Yeah. I don't know what to jonas last time with my wife, and the portions were so small, I was just like, you got to be shitting me. We left there after we ate and went directly to Long John Silver. And we both sat there and was eating their whitefish or whatever it is that they slash out. I just remember the rivermen. Oh, yeah, they're still around. Well, buddy, trouble for that Chiefs. And then we went down there for our basketball tournament. We all got in trouble at the basketball tournament. I think every person in Hall High School got in trouble if it wasn't the basketball only lost one game. It was there. But I remember being in a holiday in, like, somewhere. You were just there as a fan and being weirdo. Well, yeah, we were all down there, but all the guys came down, and we all got in trouble at the actually, Peoria Michael, the first concert we ever went to was at the Civic Center. Remember it? Special. Yes.
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Hardcore band at the time called no, Danny, it was not. It was not. Yeah. Toddy's played at the Period Civic Center. Oh, nice. Yeah. Madison Theater. Brutal juice, I think. I was not that show. You guys met Al back in the day. We were at this show. My mom said out loud, she goes, what year was she told him this summer, 93 or 94? No, it was 95. I was 15. You were 14? Dude. Jimmy Thompson drove us. He was 16. I promise you. I promise you. The Blue and The Verve in 1996, I i promise you. I was 15. We played Toady's, played at the Madison Theater, which is in, like, the scuzziest part of Peoria. Yeah. And my mom was like, It's okay that a 16 year old will drive you down there and go to the shittiest part of Peoria. What? Soldier Field to go see Pearl Jam, where there's 40,000 people and nothing could happen. No garbage that you'll get murdered at Soldier Field. If it was a Bears game, you'd be fine. But you're going to let me go to this show. And we went to the show. We had a guy with us. He probably weighed £115, and he was standing by the door, and it was all ages show, and this guy got thrown out of the show. The other I'm not our buddy. Different. A different guy got thrown out, and he was thrown through our friend. And we're like, that's our buddy. The guy was this monster of a human. Just goes, what? We're like, you just threw a guy through the door. A buddy was standing there. He goes, oh, sorry. So the guy opens up the doors, grabs our buddy with one arm, holds back the drunk. Like, I'm 15 years old. And he holds back to the drunk, and he goes, you're out. You're in. Shuts the doors. He goes, Sorry about that, guys. There was a guy bashing apples on his fucking head. This is better than Pearl Jam. How is this like a thing is a rough town? I will say that was a good show by the Todys is an underrated rock. If anyone wants this, listen to it.
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Is 1982 early for that concert? 1980. Yeah.
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Sorry. I was like, those guys are like, a couple of years. There's a 1980 concert, ario Speed Wagon and 38 Special in Peoria. It's listed as Bradley, though. I posted that. I will say I've never seen it. Did you
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sound like the creepy volleyball coach that got fired for being inappropriate with girls like Mario Speed Wagon and 38 Special? Powers. Yeah. Phil Powers. I didn't find a 1995 I found a 1996 Toady's concert in Peoria. It was toady's sieve and brutal juice. Yeah, that tough. That was it. Well, I was 15, I think it was early 96. I'm like, hey, here's my memory. It's my first nope. Nope. You said 93, 96. And then we went and saw Luke. You like this. We went and saw Tonic and the and the I did. I went and saw them. I I like both of those. Luke, luke tonic. I'm an old man. I like to have my memories. You were, like, ten at a concert. Like, what the fuck? Your mom was like, that's fine. You know Michael who's eleven with the fucking 17 year old boy down. You remember the sun? No, it wasn't it was actually December. I was probably ten or eleven when I saw Johnny Cash at the Shrine Mosque in Period. My dad took me. That was a long two music rewind episode where he talks about that. Yeah. I'm kidding. What was your first concert ever? Intentional or arbitrary? Obviously what's the first concert that you were at that made an impact on you? I was very late to the concert game. I'm trying to remember what the first one might have been. It might have been I went to a free show in Chicago on the 4 July, and it was with the headliner it was John Mayer buddy guy came out and played with him. Oh, my gosh. The two openers were Rodrigoi Gabriella and Robert Randolph band. I think that would have been a great living here. And we did a friend of mine from college was like, I know someone in Chicago. We can sleep on their floor. Want to go to this? So we hopped on the train. We're in. I'm like, I'm in there. Yeah. And say, we want them by John Mayer. But that's a line of shore. Yeah, that guy complained and then gosh just to see yeah, that was pretty cool. And then we walked down and got to see the fireworks and stuff. And it was also the taste of Chicago was going on that day as well. So Chicago was an absolute zoo. But best concert tip I had is bring an umbrella. Because even in the sun, you stand there under your umbrella, and it's like instant shade. It was amazing. We were out there for hours and hours, too. I will say best cancer tip for a festival is one of those water bottles. Can be water, right? Water bottle. Real quick story, and I'm going to step back, but it was a Pearl Jam Seven tour, and it was lala and my buddy and I, we went all day for the next couple of days, and we all had, like, the fake water vodka thing. And then Danny shows up and he goes, hey. It was like halfway through the set. Or it was like later in the day, he's like, I had work. But I come in and he had water and bulked over after him. And I had been like, smoked all day. It's like, I brought us water, and it's like, please tell me these are actual waters and not vodka. We closed Grand Park down and you ever have, like, a Chicago cop with a horse on course, like, say, I think it's time for you guys to leave, and we're like, the concert is over, man. We need to leave
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anyway. Rick what concert? These are all true stories. Daniel for you, that resonated. Okay, well, the first real concert experience I had resonated in a way, really weird way. The first real concert I ever went to was a jazz concert. It was the Buddy Rich band. Oh, wow. It was not Buddy Rich himself. He had passed by that point. But I was in 8th grade, and this would have been like, early 1991, maybe. I think it might have been December 1990. And it was really incredible. I remember their drummer, who was not Buddy Rich, but he was standing whoever he was, they obviously had to have somebody to sort of nick could play that. Yeah. Good. Yeah. And just being blown away by just kind of like I use a metaphor here, the size of the music, all encompassing. It's like an orchestra. When the first time you hear an orchestra, you're like, wow. Because you're so used to kids bands, orchestra, and then when you get to a real orchestra, it's like, oh, man, that's a movement. That would have been cool. I really like him as a drummer, so on my Facebook, I have a lot of Buddy Riches stuff because he was just incredible. It was just awesome drummer. Him and Neil Pert, those are the guys that I put on the I want to show people how good some of those guys were. I can go get my Rush collection if you guys want to see that. Yeah. Here's the question. I want to neil Prudence scarf. No, I don't think you were those here's the question I wanted to ask you. Not only in the first concert, but do you remember the first time that you were either in an audience or performing, that you were like, well, for me, it was in an audience where it might have been like 8th grade play. It might have been whatever, when you looked up at somebody and said, that's what I want to do, or that connects with me, I could take on that. You know what I mean? I remember seeing high school or 8th grade plays when I was in the audience, and I honestly still remember the names of the people that were in those plays who are now in their 50s or whatever, who are allstate, oh, man. So, Danny, back when I was young, went to a thing called a Score of Scores at Putnam County High School, and it was a medley of returning greatest hits of past students. I was young, I was probably eight or nine, but what blew my mind was it started off with, oh, what a Beautiful Morning from Oklahoma, and it was my Uncle Jack walking through the audience, singing it belting it Jack Grazier. I had no idea. Apparently he was a great singer, number one. This is when I learned that my Uncle Jack is a good singer, but he was in Oklahoma back when he was in high school at Cleveland County. Completely blew my mind. And then that's how the show started. And then it was just a great variety show showcase of some of the great sets. And it was people that were middle aged at that point, but still going back to their high school and singing songs they sung in high school. And it was fantastic. It really was. It was really neat. Singing South Pacific, other Rogers and Hammerstein type stuff was at the time, but it was really awesome. That was like my first kind of sitting in the audience and seeing a show on the stage was really cool. I was in 8th grade and we did Annie, a Little Orphan Annie, and I sang bass even in 8th grade. So they said they put me out front. And then we had a boy that actually would sing really high and we just did the music for it wasn't the play, we just did the songs from it at like an assembly and I can remember doing that. And then we had a Christian rock band that I sang in for just two things. But what I think 1984, the Van Halen concert, that was when I had never heard anything that loud. And that was a great show. And I was like that turned me on to go into more concerts and stuff like that. But that was probably and seeing Eddie Van Halen, because I was already a huge fan of them. But just to see that, I'm like, wow, that would be something I'd want to do. Absolutely. That was changing. I can play the drums like a drum machine. I'm not a drummer natural. I got a cousin that's the drum tech for Kings of Leon. And my uncle, when I was growing up, was my hero. He taught me about motorcycles, plus he played drums in the Morton High School Band. But then he still plays the drums for other local bands in the Peoria area. But I thought that was kind of cool to watch him, and I wanted to do everything that he did. Can we hear a rendition of Hard Knock Life, maybe? Well, I would belt out Tomorrow, but you don't want to hear that. These pipes, I don't know if you heard like, don Dawkin, but you guys wouldn't even know who that is. But my voice sounded like that because my brother, who played the drums in the Christian Band says, that's not my brother's voice coming out of them. So you reach in and you pull it out of you. And now I wouldn't be able to do that. I haven't practiced. I used to be able to hold my breath for like four minutes so I could sit there and extend. What we were talking about was the Guns and Roses song. Where you find that the axle rose at the end of the song. They just kind of repeat it. I'm trying to remember the song that you could be mine. Yeah, you could be mine I could sit there and do that, but then I could go for like another minute afterwards and people are like, Damn. They're like, okay, you could quit now. You could quit now. Was it the guy that did Steelhart? He did the singing for Mark Wahlberg and the rock star. And I had a motorcycle shop, but I would also part time be a security guard at a concert venue and Steelhart and Lynch Mob George Lynch's Group played. And when he was practicing, he was singing. And then I sat there and sang as high as he did, but I went for a long time. So it's almost like the movie Rock Star where the guy is in the audience and outdoes him. But then after that, I wasn't into that. My friends opened up for a couple of bands that were there. I'm crushed to think that Marky Mark didn't do his own singing. Yeah. I was more nervous that you're going to say something like marky Mark had a standing for well, one thing in the singing. He did Boogie Nights. Yeah. Boogie Nights. That was all me. Here's the funny thing. Speech class when I was at Northern Illinois, the guy did Prosthetics and he did all this stuff and he flashed all of the different movies they had prosthetics for. And like, Boogie Nights came up. Everybody was kind of like, I know what you're thinking. What prosthetic did I do? And I was like, obviously a dick. There's no way he just hung out. Is his mom still on or she's watching? My mom would agree and she would laugh. Doug, I'll tell you what. If I run down in Peoria and my parents are down there, you meet my parents, you'll have the best time of your life. Don't talk about you'll never believe my motorcycle shop was in Champagne, Illinois, and that was a college town, and that's where Ariel repaired their scooters and all that and motorcycles. And then I would take odd jobs. Whatever made money, I would do back then. Wait, I should put limitations on that. Yeah, picked up on that. That was such an easy one. I'm the only one that might have said out loud. Yeah, that's right.
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What's another topic through out there? We're at the two hour mark, do we want a new topic or how's everyone feeling? What are you going to say? You had something we had been talking about if there was any performance or something that we were looking at as you were a child. Sure. You're asking me? Yeah. My first concert was Billy Ray, so I was not inspired, actually. My mom said I fell asleep at the concert I can see that was it. Yeah. I was six years old, Peoria Civic Center. And she said, I fell asleep in the chair. Was there anything where you were, like high school play or anything like that? Where you were just like, I want to do that, or you just always had I've always loved music. Very young age, my mom got me one of those Fisher Price record players and she got pictures going on me stare. Those are the best. Yes, I remember those. That was the fucking best thing I ever love record players. And this is going to sound cheesy, but when I actually fell in love with music was my first Pearl Gym concert. Like actual love obsession. And I know you guys feel the same. Which tour was that? Riot act 2003. But I mean, yeah, we were at the same show, too. But Luke, that's the best thing about this podcast, is it's not cheesy? No. I would say I wish I had. When I was a kid, my parents always played music on the records, and I could still hear my mom. It's so funny when I'm playing records, like final, and my wife hits it, and I'm like, because I'm waiting for my mom to go, god damn it, don't run around the table. You're fucking knocking your stick of the needle. And like, I could still hear that, like when I was a kid to hear that. And I I don't know, something about music. And I went to all the places. Obviously, I was never talented enough to be on stages and stuff or act in anything or sing because I have no voice. It's a curse. I remember every lyric ever, but I have no tone. I can't sing with the shit. I've seen Danny, like, in plays, and I've seen other people in plays. And I used to go to plays. My mom's like, we're going to go see Gay Superstar. And I will say one of the greatest musicals of all time is G Square superstar number two was like, Joseph and Mitzvah, Jean Coat. Those are things that I love to hear those people sing. And my parents took us to Chicago to go see Joseph. And it was awesome to see that. But I didn't care about that type of music. It was great and I appreciate it. And it's very uplifting. It's gorgeous. But to me, I want to hear guitar rock, guitar face, drums. And to me, that was always the stuff that my parents gave me. But they're like, no, don't worry about it. But I always want to listen to something like new. And I always want to find something new. Because in my mind, there's always Song Baby that's out There that is my favorite song that I've never heard yet. Sure. So I want to hear all the new stuff that's out. And if I have to go back and I'm a nerd with my spreadsheets, that. Goes through, like, stacks of years and just listens to all the albums because there might be that one song that I didn't hear. Now I don't know if it's ever going to be better than Tangerine from Led Zeppelin. I don't know. That's my favorite song of all time. I don't know if it's going to be better than that. But I want to find out if it's out there. Because music, I can't play it. I tried. I small elf hands, so I can't, like, do too much. And I just told my wife, I was like, I'm going to go to the Old Town School of Music in Chicago and learn how to play drums. Because I have energy and I have hands and I can do this. So fuck, maybe I'll try to learn how to play to play drums, but I have a guitar sitting here. I've tried multiple times. I used to have Danny's guitar in my dorm room for years because he lent it to me. He's like, yeah, you'll figure it out. I did. But, like, music to me is like and I've always said this, and I think I said it in the first episode. I haven't seen it's the only time machine we have. That's it. That's the only time machine it could take you from. If I listen to a Beatles record I'm in 1965, you know, listen to Tax Man or the first time somebody puts that needle down when they hear it, it's it's the only thing that can make you go to a place that you've never been. And it's a place that makes you want to go someplace else. And I promise you, I'm not on any gummies tonight. But I'm very transparent. That's how I feel about life. I don't know. We're all in the same whatever, but it makes you to not have music in your life or not like music or like, sound. Like that is bananas to me. I've heard somebody say once in my life, oh, I don't really like music. How the fuck do you not like music? Like anything. Like you don't like anything. There's nothing that you like, even like Gorian chants or Christian rack or somebody like just singing. My wife sings all the time, and it's always Showtimes and it's always Lehman. It's always Oklahoma. She was in Oklahoma, and she loves Lehman. It's her favorite thing in the world. We were going in February to see in Chicago. Her mind is blown. She's never seen, like, a professional group ever do. Lame is pretty awesome. Yeah. Steve, I'll be honest. I'm the guy who thought Wolverine I was like, I didn't know Wolverine could sing. Right? This is what she goes, I didn't know who the fuck I go, He's Wolverine. I go, that guy is fucking Wolverine. My son just saw Hugh Jackman in The Music Man last year. My son is a burgeoning theater kid and actor. So he's on that path and so my wife took him up for his birthday last year to Broadway and saw Hugh Jackman and the Music Man blew his mind. Loved every minute of it. I was going to say that would definitely be that moment that we were talking about for a kid to see. He still talks about it. Jackman yeah. Steve. Have you shown him the Monterrey Episode for the Simpsons? Because that is the ultimate Music man. Like, because he's in several musicals and he's also doing TVs and commercial stuff. And so I told him, that who you just saw. And we watched X Men one and two. That's the same guy. And then we watched TickTick Boom. And with Andrew Garfield playing Jonathan Larson. And then we watched the most recent Spiderman movie. Like, see, buddy? Yeah, spiderman, too. You can be an amazing singer and actor in stage and you could be a freaking superhero acting. He does want to work out 15 hours a day to look like Jackman, as will if he has he will be in peak physical forever. If you can get him to dance and he's the triple threat. Maybe my question is more innocent than that. Because I was not able to see Hugh Jackman in a big Marvel movie, I was only able to see an actor on stage even if they were a senior and I was a junior. You know what I mean? To me, the COVID band, Michael, that we saw, the Craigs or Rosemary, my mind, as much as that is true, dan, think about that on your fender. You're going, oh, this is all it is. And I'm, like, blew my mind. I mean, the fact that they let us go down there as, like, an all ages show, that young. Nicole, was there something where you I guess to try to bring it back to my original question, was there somebody like, this is what I needed to listen to? Or who was that band or that person? Or that actually, I want to cranberries don't do the fucking I know she is, but it wasn't for me. You know what I mean? Nirvana. I've done Sunny Day Real Estate. But I want to intervene here. Nicole has one of the most beautiful voices I've heard in person. We've recorded album or not album songs together. Oh, my God. We have a band and we never play anywhere. We've recorded multiple songs together, but her voice in person, like I said, Nora Jones. I can name many Adele female singers, but Nicole in person, it makes the hair stand up on your neck amazing. Yeah. Thank you. So you might have to pull that out of her on her episode. Steve oh, you can't stop me from singing Granberry's clips. I wasn't trying to downplay and if you're telling I was just no, not at all. I just wanted to throw that out there. If we're talking about in person experiences, nicole has a gorgeous voice. And she does. She sings at her church and she sings with our imaginary band. Yes. You know, one of the greatest guitar players I've ever heard, luke Boris, Rick Hanson, who's down here. Nice. We've got an actual yeah, you guys should go. Oh, my gosh, I don't believe I've ever met the two of you before. You're very tiny on my screen right now, but you need to bust out the guitar. We need to hear something. We need to hear some Master of Puppets. Yeah, that's going to be there you go. That's going to be real hard at this hour. All right. Yeah. Do not wake your daughter up. So, Rick, you'll find Luke on the radio, head in Rainbow's album and our episode. And the who quadrophenia and Milly, Vanilla Girl. You know, it's true. And I haven't recorded yet our grandparents backyard, my parents house and Danny's house. But honestly, I want to hear nicole, is there something that started you on your path to want to play? To want to perform. I was a very shy kid, but encountered music in church, and that kind of was always around. But when I heard Dolores aridan's voice when I was about twelve or so, that was a major connection. And I credit her with, like she's one of my first music teachers. Like vocal teachers, I would say. But going back to falling in love with music and music being around. I was a Tavern kid,
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so my parents and my grandparents, like, after we'd go out for dinner on the weekend or whatever, we'd stop at the local. It's been tore down now, but it was the oldest liquor license in the state of Illinois. I believe it's called shops. I thought that was called West End Tap or Gillis Tap is the official name, but everyone just called it Shots. And it's this tiny little dive bar. I can still smell it, like, burned into my brain. But they would just give me quarters and like, go play on the jukebox. And I would stand on a chair in just my face in the jukebox, just looking at all the different what did you play back then? Was it like one of those flip ones? Like it flipped? I don't think that one was a flip one. But I would play Crazy by Patsy Klein because the bartender, she loved that one. I would play love shack. That was one of my jams. Yeah. And I would play Little Richard. I'd play, I think Dolly Parton. And it was probably songs. I don't think that thing had been updated in a couple of years, but yeah. And I'd be on the jukebox, like just like arms rested on the glass. I know the one that you're talking about then. That like it's like the big it's always fun to find a jukebox back in the day that was stuck in time that hadn't been updated in a good ten years. The A and W in East Peoria. I had always play Fat Domino. Ain't that a shame? Or Blueberry Hill. My dad's favorite. Pick those. That's the A and w long John Silver is in east pure. If they want to send us some coupons or sponsor us, they should because I mentioned twice. I remember going to both of those places a lot as a kid. Long John Silvers. Did they still have it where they have like, a dock that you walk out on? Not in East Peoria. But I do remember when that was a popular thing. The one in Peakin had a dock and same with A and W. There was a drive in. Cranwell's. Cranwells is still around. It is. The family sold it just a couple of years ago. But yeah, every weekend we'd go there after the drag races from Havana. And the owner was really cool. He'd always give my kids the little stuffed A NW, root Beer Bears and stuff like that. Because every weekend thing back then. Nicole, what got you from playing the jukebox to wanting to sing? Dan, you're taking away Steve's fucking questions. What are you doing? I'm out of question and rerun them. I'm sorry, but when we're you, Danny, have our podcast, like, obviously we know who the question guy is. I'm just really invested in what he had to say and I wanted to hear the end of it. Is that so bad? I think I really fell headlong more into music in college and after college. I think when you start being more aware of it and you're tying those things to events in your life and yeah, like seeing music, what music is in your college? Or maybe you coldplay. I was a big Coldplay fan. Early coldplay old play. Well, the first two Cold play records here. Oh, my gosh. So I saw them as a college graduation gift to myself. I saw them in eight on their Viva lavita Tour. But when they played Politic Politics, one of my favorite songs of theirs, when they played that live, it was amazing. It was just radiating all the way through. Me and my friend who went when we were driving home and we popped the CD and we were like, how do we go back to listening to music on media? Like, seeing it live and feeling it just radiating through your bones. Yeah. Floor shaking. Yeah. You're literally feeling ridiculous. No, true. That's how Pearl Jam is. You feel it. Shit. Talk them all you want, but seeing those guys live, it's one of the greatest fucking things you could ever see. I know what you think, but I'm telling you, see those guys live, they rank right up there with Creed. I saw them. And the whole time I was just thinking, I hope Eddie Vedder's head explodes. Come on, just die. Drop dead. Now. I've had enough of this. I apologize to all of you fans out there, but that's my take on Pearl Jam. And that was 95 Vitality tour. It was one of the worst concerts. He was still like a grumpy. He's such a fucking band. Such a grumpy.
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Let me throw this question at you. What is a concert that you've been to? We're halfway through, you're like, this is terrible. I want out
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at the Vic Theater in Chicago. Danny and I looked at each other, it was like half hour into it. And I go, are we seriously going to listen to this shit all the time? And he goes, and I'm so into
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and two of us just go mine was Bon Jovi Slippery When Wet tour
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dude, they wore that album out. He had some kind of throat problem. And we were going to be at the beginning of the tour, but it was towards the end of the tour. And I had a girlfriend that really loved Bon Jovi. So I got tickets, and by the time it came around, sunderla opened for him. And I did not know who Cinderella was. Cinderella's. Right. They kicked ass. And when Bon Jovi was out, played for a while, and he just thought he was better than anything. And my girlfriend turned to me, she goes, this is kind of boring. And I said, yeah, I would still rather see if I do the last couple of songs. Cinderella came back out, and instead of being in their costumes, they were in their shorts. And one of them didn't even have he had socks on. He didn't have shoes on. And they came out and they did have like, white socks on. Those are popular now. Yeah, that was popular then. You might have two colored bands on the top of it, but those guys came out and saved the concert. I know. I look at all the pictures of me when I was a kid in the know. Yeah, exactly. The bass player had this hairdo, looked like a freaking palm tree. Massive amounts of hair. And all of those bald guys dog had the same hairdo. And that's why we are bald now. Back in the had a perm. It looked like a lion's made and then you take a little moose and slide it on the side.
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It looked like I was Neil Perk from Boston in the 70s. Big ol fro. My uncle was a drummer in a local band called Joe Raider. And he had the Perm look for a while. I think in the he looked like Lionel Ritchie. Me and my brother got Perms. That was big news at the school. The Brinkler boys had got their hair done. You know what I mean? Rick? By the way, Nicole mentioned her uncle. So Michael and I want to start a podcast talking about Illinois. Illinois allen is our guy. He's going to be our first interview. I had a friend they had the band was rated X. And I did the lights and the smoke. And stuff for them, but they just played local stuff. And then the best part is, Danny, when we have to talk about like, Chicago blues, we're just going to go, hey, we're just going to push it right over. If you're going to have Chicago blues, you're going to have online future dates. You need to listen to the music rewind because we are not going to touch it because you have a good episode that's coming up. Danny and I are just going to talk to, like we're going to talk about the problem with it, Mike, is that you guys have been talking about starting this podcast for about two years now. We've been talking about doing something like this for 1520 years. I wish the premise I have the premise, Doug, was we wanted to talk to we're from Central Illinois, so talk to local musicians. I'm not a musician, though. No,
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it's very rich. And bands that have either gone on to play somewhere, talking about Alan who went on to play, or he played with people that went on, and there's guys that play with Cheap Trick and all that kind of stuff. It was basically people that played in bands from the mid sixty s to the late or early 90s that have been in bands whether they went on to do something or didn't. But Gary Rickfreff from Oreo Speedway. Yeah, exactly. The bands enough is Enough, donning B. Yeah, we grew up with guys that played in a band called Laud Lucy that were on DGC Records that opened up for Alanis Morrisset. There's just a bunch of bands. You've heard of Mudvane and it ended up being hell yeah. They were with oh, no. Yeah, they're from peaking. Yeah. I think I talked about the story of how I saw those guys in the VFW halls, the local VFW. Our idea was to taxi war, dance and mud. Taxi war dance. Their van was around all the time. Used to see that Luke got the hook up with Gary Horry. Yeah, gary played with hot action cops. They were on a few we got it. Steve doesn't know that we're expanding the music rewind. Like the spin off podcast. Remember the next Michael's voice. So the Fisher Price people like my voice. Oh, the record price record player that I was talking about. This was the album California raises. I still have the oh, man, look at the head. Heard it through the grapevine. Looked up to see how much that's worth. It's probably worth something because I think I saw somewhere that seven. I have those. No, I have the action figures. Hardy's action figures. Nicole do you guys all have those? I still have the image and the lips. Al, if you could see this, I doubt you can see it on the video. I treated this like probably the Fisher Price. This is horrible. This is the worst record I've ever seen. Well, you can imagine the quality of the needle. I did find my Star Wars. I found my Star Wars sharpened. Was it a sewing needle? It was. I wish I could show you guys. This is the worst thing I have ever seen. It was like a neat penny nail with a point sharpened quarters on the needle to keep it from bouncing off. But I think there's like a Luke Snot finger on here from five years old. You couldn't find a Kleenex, so you use you just didn't lick it off. Come on. I did not, but yeah, this is awesome. So, yeah. Lean on me stand by me you can't hurry love heartbreak Hotel classics. Yeah. When a man loves a woman, respect Labomba. Sweet. Delicious. That's selling on ebay. You want to give it a guess, Luke? Not this. $186. $99 right here. Mint condition, $26. There you go. Is there an album that you discovered that was copied on tape for you that you didn't know? You just said, hey, here's a cassette, or, I think you would like this. I've got so many from Billy Joel. I'm aging us a little bit. Sorry. Go ahead, Steve. 42nd street from Billy Joel. I rated my dad's cassettes sometime in the started pillaging them and I thought it was a mixtape, but it was actually the the album of 42nd street. And it was one of my early intros into the into Billy Joel. As far as not the songs you don't hear on the radio constantly, the background song, the deeper tracks, so that's one. And there were songs cut off on each side, just like with Rick's Master puppets
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right off the bat. 42nd street, that came right to me. Nice. My dad's were mostly mixes. He would take pieces from different albums. So Eagles, Van Morrison, he was a big fan of the Motown movement as well. But yeah, again, it was mostly greatest hits type stuff that he had. Anything that you heard for the first time that you got on a mix, all of it that you fell in love with. I remembered writing in this car, listening to all of it when I was five years old. Now remember, I just have very vague blurs, but I've still got them all over here in my chest here so I could pop them in. Well, I shouldn't say that I gave my tape player to Nicole, so I can't listen to them anymore. But I will always hold on to those because he created them. I think somebody handed me an Overkill, which was a thrash band from work or something that was pretty cool because they knew I was into that kind of music and they said, hey, listen to this. So I had that for a while. If I remember right, I only had one side of the speakers worked on that tape. So whenever he taped it off, it wasn't a stereo. But they were a pretty good thrash band. They're great thrashband. Yeah. Now, Danny, did you and Mike get into Pearl Jam early enough to be in the club where they would mail tapes of concerts? No, we got in I was going to say the fan club. Definitely. I will say this about Pearl Jam. I remember being in his room and he had ten and I said, Just record me fucking songs on that are the videos. I'm like, I don't really give a shit what the rest of this sounds like, I'm just record the video songs. And he did and he recorded me those songs and like, I was kind of like, I didn't really care about Jeremy and Alive and even though we were kind of cool, but I was like, I don't really care about the rest of this shit because I really did. And I know it's kind of hard to believe, I really did like Nirvana more intense Girl Jam and not as voted on Danny did later. Not as much as Danny danny did, but I liked them. But I didn't get a mike, do you know what band put a DVD out with all their music videos on it so you could put it in and watch the videos? Do you know what band that was? Yeah, that was Creed. Creed did that? Yeah. You can watch every one of their videos. Have you ever watched them all high? They are because they are the most anyway, they're following along on our Creed Drinking Game challenge. I will say that you're now passed out on the floor and we'll see you next time. And that's my wife and I go back to will say the band that I found strictly by a mixed tape that I got was a band called Sabado Dinosaur Jr. Lou Barlow's, J Maskis. Is that? Yeah. Well, Jay was the lead singer, he was the architect of Dinosaur and then Lou was the bass player and then his band was Sebado and I got it. The neighbors, they had a band and they gave me a mixed tape and they said, look at this, or Listen to this and you're walk, man. And it was like half song. I had no idea what it was and it blew my mind. Absolutely loved it. And it was one of those things where it was intimate, it was confessional. The bass playing was obviously now I know, was phenomenal, but I had no idea at the time. It was something that I had never heard of before and I loved it and that's where I wanted to go with that.
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Is that the one you were looking for, Al? Yeah. That's still one of the coolest covers I think I've ever seen. It's very sergeant Pepper desk. Yeah, right. Sonic. Who is this, sir? Pearl Jam, the 98 Ten Club single. Apparently everything is going to revolve around Pearl Jam.
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What are you guys thoughts about Danny action figure? No. Danny, I want to mention a band rick first? What does he think about Pro Jim and then Nicole second, and we'll just get all the way. You want me to go first? Eddie Better is the voice that ruined the 90s. There you go.
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Yeah. I respect their musicianship. I respect his talent. I respect that. From a technical standpoint, he's a far better singer than I could ever hope to be. But there's something about the combination and the aesthetics that just always jarred with me. And then the whole, like, I don't know the best way to put this, but basically there's Bono complex in the 80s. He doesn't have that anymore. Hey, Rick, do you know the difference between Jesus Christ and Bono? Bono Christian Bon Rosen walking around Ireland saying that he's Jesus Christ looking for a joke writer. My wife came down. Sorry. All of a sudden, you're like, Hold on, I got this joke. Wait for it. Yeah, those are the best jokes. Wait for it. That's been my opinion. I liked bugs. Bugs is a great song. That's your favorite pro jam song, is Bugs? I love bugs. All right, we're going to give you some Bugs, but go talk to them. We'll have you on the show, Rick, but we're not going to talk about pearls. Do I eat them raw or well done? Yes. I can go through the whole
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thing. We have seen Bugs live, televised, wrigley. All right, I'm going to show it up with Rick. Okay. Sorry. That's probably the basis of my opinion. Nicole, did you want to chime in on that? Any information I have about Pearl Jam is from that man right there. Oh, so he's on her side. They're okay. They are not my favorite. I own none of their albums. I think I have. I like the song light years. I remember I bought that one. Light years is single. Yes. Binaural. But they're not my jam. Pearl Jam is not my jam. They may or not a lot of people jam. I respect them. I respect their talent. In the last, like, 1520 years of being a fan, I just I don't really fucking care what other people think. Like, if you I used to be so like, oh, my God. I don't want to say anything because I don't want to hear negative stuff. Now I'm like, I don't fucking care, man. I'm too old to give a shit if somebody doesn't like my band anymore. Do you think it's the same way as other bands? Like we were talking about rolling before or creed. Nobody would argue with maybe no one will argue with the Beatles or maybe no one will argue with Nevada because their catalog is so short and definitive 25 years in, or Records or whatever? Do you think that is a reason for it or no, you've never no. Okay, Rick. Go ahead. They lost me right away. Yeah, go ahead. That's why I brought it up. I first heard I mean, I was 14 in 1991. So I was the prime corporate target of the grunge mechanism. Right. And I remember the first time I saw the video for Alive when it first aired on MTV, and I'm like, oh, this is kind of a cool guitar riff. And then that fucking voice. I liked even Flow. I mean, we're close to the same age then I liked Even Flow. And then from that yeah. Well, Rick, I guess I would say, did you like Alison chains and soundgarden? Okay. Did you like everybody else? I guess those are different bands, Mike. No, they're all different bands. Of course they're all different bands. I like soundgarden. Yeah. They were never my jam out of that mix. I probably would say Alice and Shane's first album, Facelift and then some is Soundgarden like Soundgarden, like right up to Bad Motor Finger, maybe not even that, as much as some of the best, favorite album. Hey, I will say this. Like fucking Chris voice. He was awesome. You have to admit, those Soundguarden SST records. But that's not Chris Cornell's, like, pure voice. But what Rick is saying, those are beyond anything that but those are more like the underground. Like when they did the Hunger what was it with the Pearl Jam and yeah, Hunger Strike. That was great. And Pearl Jam. I like the instruments. I like the musicianship of it. But Eddie Valley, I guess it would be the same as Creed. Some people don't like Scott staff. Scott staff doesn't have a job without Eddie Vetter. That's true.
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Or whatever the fuck is. Damon from Nickelback doesn't have a job without Eddie. Veteran Air Lewis from Stain. A lot of these guys don't have jobs without him. Error goes. Everything was all high pitched. Everything was like in the 80s was all high pitched. Exactly. Everything was like and then these guys are like, oh, I guess we could say. Yeah. But we do see that. What's his name from the cult? Ian Asbury. Ian asbury yes. I love his voice. Yeah, I think that's what Eddie was trying to emulate. He didn't come close. No, I'm not comparing the two. It was just a register up. Yeah, definitely. And Ian Ashbury, he was playing with the doors. He was singing with The Doors, by the way, saying Three Doors songs when they inducted The Doors. Yeah, but you're brutally close to saying Three doors down, so shut up, Mike. Come on. That guy's a good thing. But that's kind of what I meant by the voice that ruined the think. It's not quite as simple as the register of everything in the 80s was high because Hetfield, Tom, Mariah, Dave Misan, there were growlier vocals. But I think it's the way in which Eddie Vetter kind of combined high pitch with growley just rubs my ear the wrong way in, like, the worst way possible. I can understand that. It'd be safe to say that I know you. Say it's a voice that ruined the 90s. Something that he tried out the first time because he had grunge, for lack of a better term, was classic rock and funk combining together with metal. Right. All of that together. And I've talked about this before, we're like, Nirvana is a different beast altogether because that was Cheap Trick and that was punk and whatever. A lot of those other bands like those bands. Yes. Turquo Band is not the only person ever like, oh, my God, I'm the first person ever like punk and like pop. No. I can understand what Rick's saying about as far as the voice. And it's not clicking. Because when he says that, to me, that type of band is Rage Against the Machine. Love the band. I can't stand the lead singer. It ruins damn near every song for me. But I love audio slave. Audio slave is fantastic. Yeah. I could literally hear Chris Cornell.
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This is a strange thing, too, that all of the great grunge singers except Daddy Vetter are dead. Yeah, I think a lot of it. Well, Lane wasn't like too much credit to Lane. The guy didn't write anything. To be fair. Did we all forget about Jerry Cantrell in that band? I always think everybody forget about all they did was fucking prop up that fucking drug addict. Sorry, I don't mean to be in that voice. They propped him up to fucking sing. And when they sing together, though, I'm just saying they sounded great together. But all of a sudden, we always forget about fucking Jerry Kentrell. No, he's fucking way more Alison chains. That fucking link. He orchestrated my orchestrated he kept the machine running. But like Kentrell's voice, I mean, I always go back to the Almond brothers for this Kentrell's voice. Thank you. It's the dicky BET's voice. Yes. And staley is the Dwayne. Almond voice. Yes, I agree with that. That's fine. I'm just saying we give so much credit to fucking Lane growing up in Seattle with all that rain and stuff. You're going to be down. I mean, you're going to do drugs, you're going to commit suicide. So it's really amazing that Eddie's still around, still alive. Yeah. There you go. Yes. That's why he's the best voices. Rick, when you were talking about Eddie starting that is Lanigan. Mark Lanigan from Scripting had that voice way before Eddie did. And he was on SST and he had the big voice. I think Eddie was not emulating. I think he was unique in his own way of sounding like it. But he wasn't the first one to not be 80 showman, if you will. Have to see if they could hit that vocal high. Yeah, but it was always about like Bon Jovi fucking there's only one guy that did it. I think we all go I say this out loud. One guy that sounded rungy and what he's saying, and he hit that high pitch voice no, all I'm saying is that was Axel Rose. Like, Axel Rose axel is in a whole other right, but I'm saying he like obviously he is a fucking vocal cord. No, he's in a whole other but everybody else sounded like the whole time. That's all they did. Anyone could emulate a sound. No one could be an originator or bring passion or something else to it. It's very easy to mimic or copy a guitar tone or a lyric. But if you're going to be the first one to ever do it no, maybe there's your Lull feature. Yeah. There's my lull. To kind of throw it out there. That I kind of need to wrap this up here.
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Does anybody have any final words to Shannon Hoon? Is my final two words. Hey. First record is, and he's on Use Your Illusion. Yes, he is. Yeah. He is on. Use your illusion. Don't cry. He was in the video and Axel dated his sister. Yes. I don't even know what he dated his cousin. I did not know that. I thought Shannon was his cousin. No, I think Axel Rose dated Shannon sister. Okay, that's better. Because you originally said Axel was Shannon Hoon's cousin and then you're like, he dated his sister. Sorry, that's a straight line. I don't remember saying that they were cousins. Did I say that? That's rewind. It's late. We've been talking for almost 3 hours. This is a great episode, by the way. This is going to go down in his back. I still think fucking that band is overrated. I'm sorry. Oh, creed blind. The only reason that they think that it's so good is the guy died. Fuck you. He had, like, an hour and a half, maybe worth of shit. I'm sorry. Soup is a great record. Absolutely. Fucking, man. So is Nico, which was all demos. I wouldn't put it on the next live stream, we'll dive into overrated bands. Our thoughts. You, too,
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David. Next live stream, no mentions of Creed. No mentions of Biscuit. You better come original. Instead of a swear jar, you guys should have a Creed jar. Nicole, we've been talking about Creed jam. It's been ridiculous. Hey, Steve. Steve, I think your next episode should be Nicole and Rick talking about Creed and trying to find a common ground. Oh, dear. Goodness.
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All right, thank you guys all for joining us. I appreciate it. This was a lot of fun. Congratulations to Al, our Tribune champion. And thank you to Drizzley.com, who didn't see that coming.
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Congratulations. Everything about your contrast.
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Viewers and listeners out there. Appreciate it. Rick, thank you.
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